24-player alliance raids don't belong in the same roulette as 4. It takes 15-20 minutes, and it’s 50% of a level. White Mage Lv 90. It would be nice to have level 56 gear, but you don't strictly need it for a level-50 MSQ because level-50 MSQ is designed to work with the at-level gear. MSQ roulette is only the final two dungeons of ARR. It's tough to be able to vote kick people when you're always in battle or rolling on loot because of how fast people run the stuff. May as well make them soloable with Raha, Doga and Unei as duty support. MSQ Roulette is a great opportunity to do things like check my email, clean a little, do laundry, make phone calls. Even with doubling the XP, the time to complete to XP gained isn't. At level 85, MSQ roulette gives me about 3/4ths of a level , leveling roulette about the same or more. Because it’s locking out the very small fraction of people who don’t have this stuff unlocked; if you are level 84 in the post ARR MSQ you aren’t helping anyone because the roulette doesn’t need any more incentive to pop CT, this change increased the priorities of people queuing for the roulette who are adequately levelled and have all the raids. Fisher Lv 90. Mentor Roulette puts me in MSQ duties fairly often, and I will dip out and find another game to play for 30 minutes every single time. Let's discuss the concept of the MSQ roulette's bonuses and with that changing does FFXIV owe players another way to get that EXP?💖Follow on Twitch: roulette will be gone, the only reason it was there was the 8 man dungeons and that it took forever. When leveling high-level jobs, it's a godsend. Yes i am requesting a 2nd Calamity to freaking wipe out The Praetorium dungeon from existence. Once you reach HW the story pick up and do a complete turn. Patch 6. Or, like just 10 minutes, I get 60% of a level. 60k-100k, depends on your in need bonus and the exact dungeon. When I get thrown into Praetorium via the Duty Roulette, sometimes I will gain a full level. On top of that Alliance raid is even better then MS roulette. For the leveling roulette, the exp varies depending on the dungeons you get. Tribe quest can gives you some xp too. Marauder Lv 81. Such is the life of a. Endwalker Bad (Yotsuyu Too) • 1 yr. report. When the level cap. Anyway as a lv 67 class I got 2. It's not enough. WoD is the least effected by ilvl changes, but this would heavily influence mechanics seen in the others. This is mainly a venting post, and hopefully not just for me. You can ignore all the other ones. Clear time was around 30 minutes, so the whole thing seems average so far. Since patch 2. 80% of a full level's worth of experience, even at level 79. For the leveling roulette, the exp varies depending on the dungeons you get. Leveling is around 7-8 Million. 6. Prae does give more xp for the dungeon itself, but. Also you will still get Crystal Tower series more often than not regardless because of multiple factors not just ilvl cheesing. It's lowest level and the only set everyone is guaranteed to have unlocked. Wish: If all players already watched the cutscenes, allow skip (by vote - more than 50%). You don't need savage. But there are a few things you can do: Hunt trains! As mentioned before, they're easily the fastest way. also if you got d/c-ed during one, you'll skip it once you get back in. Same with MSQ roulette (after you cleared the two 8-players dungeons). WoD is the least effected by ilvl changes, but this would heavily influence mechanics seen in the others. Tomestones become useless for gearing (if they need accessible poetics gear for alt jobs, they could have. 1. Plus, you can't throw them into msq roulette and have 1 minute trials mixed in with 40 minute cutscene fests. It exists specifically for those two weird dungeons that are now being de-weirded. at the end. Quickest FFXIV Moogle Tomestone grinds. The only reason its got such great rewards compared to other roulettes rn is to compensate for the time investment. TentativeFrey • 1 yr. The roulette exp itselfnis the main thing that matters. I absolutely loathe Porta Decumana. 1. MSQ roulette is Square Enix bribing existing players to fill parties for new players going through 2. I’m a good little Eorzean. WoD is the least effected by ilvl changes, but this would heavily influence mechanics seen in the others. Complete rework to bring it up with the modern game. They're known to submit troll-like posts. Fact is, CT is the lowest common denominator. The 40 astronomy tomes are from the roulette bonus; you also get 50 astronomy tomes per clear of a given level 90 dungeon, even if you aren't doing it in the roulette. If they did this the sprouts doing the dungeon. I like the inclusion of the sources. It's to allow. He mean MSQ Roulette, not the MSQ quest in general. 110/day over 4 days is 440, just shy of the cap. I think I was about 4 levels ahead of story until the final zone when I had to. Roulettes are only good once per day. Leveling roulette + Trial Roulette daily, until you have the ilevel (and the dungeons unlocked) to run level 60 roulette and ex roulette (skip leveling at this point). It may take a while if you are not a tank or healer though. 1 , various additional roulette modes have been added or changed to reflect the changing state of the game. 2m exp reward from roulette, with 250k x2 from clearing mobs and boss, that works out to around 30% of the exp bar at that level. The raids are also max lvl content for their given expansion and thus didn't grant exp and instead tomestones. otherwise your next roulette will be MSQ roulette after a couple lvl 50 MSQ quests. 4-1. Bacent Rekkes. ago. Tykero980 Aug 7, 2021 @ 6:51am. Really depends on the raid. theadverbnoun. This means that, not only do new players NEED to do them in order to progress the MSQ, but that they also need to get 8 people to do them as well as needing to be able to see. 3 and/or Patch. Fisher Lv 90. The only thing I hate more than MSQ roulette is the solo duties you run in MSQ with a bunch of story NPCs, it feels so utterly pointless. That's so stupid I can't believe it crossed your mind. In this video Xeno reacts to the Final Fantasy XIV Live Letter LXVIII (68) where Yoshi-P (Naoki Yoshida director and producer of FFXIV) and the team reveal t. 2. The roulette still gives off good XP and you can just consider it extra XP in your leveling runs. Nearly everything in the game is gated by the MSQ in one way or the other. My guess they will make the crystal tower raids 4 person and add them to the MSQ roulette. Otherwise we'd get a queuing problem similar to what's still happening with Guildhests' to this day (AKA. 0. This should be every player's first priority. Or they can remove the unskippable cutscenes when everyone in the. Please devs, do something about it. That would fix the problems and stop the complaints about the alliance raid roulette. May as well make them soloable with Raha, Doga and Unei as duty support. Getting ifrit story mode for your leveling roulette is like winning the mega cactpot. Ragnarok. 2,734 likes · 210 were here. I've had Castrum and Porta plenty of times. The MSQ roulette (with the 2 long last dungeons of ARRA) is not really fun but gives you a big big big amount of xp that scale with your level (doing it past lv70 still gives me the half of my xp bar). That would fix the problems and stop the complaints about the alliance raid roulette. ago. I just don't want to go back there again. Someone actually did it. 1 Praetorium MSQ Roulette EXP". So many people use jump potions now, the fact that they have the option to go back and check out. [Yin Feng - Cactuar] • 2 yr. If you get the two stuns, this is typically good enough to avoid the. So, if I'm a new player playing one character, the Alliance raid roulette will essentially always be available. It’s a quick and easy way to get a little bit of extra experience, and it can be done anywhere in the game. for the past at least a month, doing MSQ roulette nearly every day, I typically never wait for more than five minutes for Main Scenario as a DPS. Trials require double the amount of people and the reward for rerunning trials without roulette is non-existent, while in comparison you have people rerunning all sorts of MSQ dungeons for different reasons. 5. Today's Posts; Today's Posts (All) FAQ; Forum Actions. If they implemented your suggestion a lot of people would simply quit the dungeon the moment they saw that there was. Running the MSQ dungeons synced from roulette and running them synced during NG+ aren’t any different except that you get to see the cutscenes that happen after the dungeon in the latter. People are using an expolit to be able to skip cutscenes in it, and then forcing sprouts to do the same, or yell at them for watching cutscenes. You are affecting other peoples experiences when you do. So long as the mechanics keep me entertained while I am playing (like they have) I'll keep hitting up roulette and playing anyway! Thanks for the quick response!Because MSQ Roulette needs to exist for new players. It's easier to keep both the duty length and rewards at a set amount. So judging by this one data point, there has been no significant changes in the MSQ roulette in this regard. Having a pallet cleanser game between MSQ pushes isn't a bad thing. Outside of the very first time you do castrum/prae, it's probably the worst bit of content in the entire game. The mechanic of riding the Magitek armour in Praetorium will be. Paid attention to my exp, here is the breakdown for the two I know. [MSQ roulette] Public Today I decided to try the revamped MSQ roulette to see how it was. MSQ roulette isn't even the best one in terms of time to exp, Frontline is which takes a 3rd of the time and sometimes queues faster too. I know that it's a stretch to consider it, but there's no legal or physiological obligation to do the MSQ Roulette, ever. Mark Forums ReadThe fact that a guildhest is equal to a extreme fight as far as the achievement is concerned, is really an issue. It's lowest level and the only set everyone is guaranteed to have unlocked. The Alliance roulette is very rarely outside of the lvl 50 stuff and occasionally the lvl 60 runs with 8 time out of 10 are a joke as. Ultimately both methods. ago. Everyone’s talking about MSQ Roulette but guildhests being punted on for now is a shame, it’s been a sore spot for just as long. That's fine I suppose. MSQ roulette isn't hurting. 110/day over 4 days is 440, just shy. Leveling, alliance, and MSQ roulettes all give chunky EXP. As I mentioned in another comment ITT I got my first level 90 in patch 2. 8 million at lvl 80. Ideally, I would like it so MSQ roulette gives the same xp/poetics as 50/60/70/80, with cutscenes skippable. White Mage Lv 90. Leveling/Alliance/Frontline and then I just do whatever highest dungeon I can do if I really wanna keep leveling. Ragnarok. Reaper Lv 90. While I don't mind it being unskippable for any new players who want to enjoy the story, if everyone has already completed it (and watched the cutscene) once, it only really serves to further increase the amount of time it takes to do MSQ roulette. Main Class. The Roulette XP rewards now only reward a pittance of XP. The next live letter might talk about it. Originally Posted by MintnHoney. After that you could unlock and run a couple different level 50 dungeons and you'll get yourself the 50(60/70/80) roulette. This is an improvement, as I thought that there would be a. My joining a roulette already in. Anyone else noticing they are getting the same ones in a. 5 dungeon and trial. May as well make them soloable with Raha, Doga and Unei as duty support. Leveling roulettes provide, on average, 29. Wissp. Also, it bears repeating that this is not the roulette for people in a rush to get their quick and easy rewards. It's probably misnamed as it isn't actually MSQ roulette. So you. Generally, the final trial of each base xpac with the prior dungeon as well as each one's Patch. Edit: granted, if you're doing MSQ first time, you shouldn't even need to do Alliance roulette since MSQ exp is enough. With so-so EXP gain. metallicaband 4 years ago #17. If you had a high enough system (or installed the game on SSD with large enough RAM), you'll usually ends the cutscene a few seconds earlier than others, especially if they plays from PS4. If someone starts with low hp, that means they took off gear to cheese the ilvl requirement for the roulette. SacredNym • 2 yr. how long are we as players going to except such trash? i know the yoshi fan boys will love it as they even love yoshi crap directly on them. For example my mentor roulette shows 3 duties because i haven't done the new msq roulette trial and dungeons. The only reason Main Scenario Roulette gave so much exp to begin with is because the content is awful, but they had to get players inside somehow or else newbies could not progress the MSQ. It was not only the harassment that was the issue, people were defeating bosses before new players were even out of the CS. MSQ roulette should only be available when an actual newbie is queueing for one of. 71% Upvoted. Note that the roulette bonus is available only once per day. Main Class. Duty Roulette allows the player to participate in randomized duties . HerroPhish • 3 yr. Or just get to MSQ Expansion end* and get your Shire Tomestone gear (then Scaevan, Cryptlurker, probably Credendum by the time you get there). The only roulettes worth doing are the leveling roulette, msq roulette, alliance raid roulette and frontlines roulette. So what happened? This is not a new or surprising story, this is a normal day in MSQ Roulette. I'm tired of sometimes getting good exp and sometimes getting crap, especially. (25) Reply With Quote. Castrum aggro issues are often not the tank's fault. People need to understand that they queued up for MSQ roulette you knew what you were getting into when you opened your duty finder. giving 4-5 million for 25 minutes. Sometimes players run ahead and pull aggro off the mobs guarding the searchlights. The best part about MSQ roulette is that you can do it as often as you want, and you don’t need to be in a party to do it. It makes the most sense in leveling roulette. Cape Westwind will also be a solo quest battle. I would kill to get any Ivalice raid in Roulette. I would love to see it broken up (maybe separated into a 50/60. This was really the only logical solution. Character was at level 67, and ended up with xp from the run corresponding to 85% of a level. So when you queue for it, you know you are joining a "climatic fight" in some way. Yep, if even one person queues up on their level 50-59 alt job, boom 23 other people get CT. Which is about what it was pre-patch too. Main Class. Using roulette is a bad analogy anyway; your odds depend on how you place your bets. step 7. I do agree that a specific CT roulette would be a good thing, but it's not going to have the high bonus tomes of MSQ roulette. Ussually super mario 3D world or zelda botw. So once you've done the first one and have unlocked the second on in the crystal tower raid it will unlock. Set lota to ilvl 90, syrcus to 110, and WoD to 130. Prae will be split into three seperate sections. Due to the fact that they're the 2 MSQ necessary 8 man Dungeons that have about 5 years worth of cutscenes in them. So, if you have limited time, it's more efficient to que MSQ and leveling for a good chunk of XP, and give lesser priority to other roulettes. Diribiri. Regardless of the duty, your run through a MSQ Roulette queue ends up being about 20-25 minutes – because Castrum and Praetorium are streamlined down substantially while the Porta Decumana trial has two phases and the lengthy intermission cutscene that is unskippable. Erzaa. 1 Praetorium MSQ Roulette EXP". The only roulettes worth doing are the leveling roulette, msq roulette, alliance raid roulette and frontlines roulette. First, the conditions: It was a full roulette run. I'd much rather be doing 1min ifrits for my full level of exp over Thousand Maws every day, or winning the mega cactpot only once. Guildhests were made strictly to teach people the basic mechanics of things. I would run MSQ roulette more often if this. In short, was mocked by a msq roulette "leech" (doing nothing while let the rest do the work but not afk) and who i assumed is their buddy (same server) after calling rhem out, they did that on purpose, said that themselves. Duty Roulette:MSQ needs to be addressed. If you do msq and leveling roulette everyday on top of the story/some side quests you’ll outlevel the story to the end. If there's no vets running MSQ roulette then those sprouts can make aTo people who want the MSQ cutscenes to be skippable - the moment that happens, MSQ roulette and its reward disappear. It gives the lowest EXP of the three, there is no food bonus XP because it is technically a trial and trials do not give food XP, plus it is harder than the other two. Tank a roulette properly but die once to some random mechanic or bad healing and the replacement takes over for one minute, get no commendations while the replacement gets 5 or 6. Instead, it was part of expert at launch til Sigmascape released. It really only fun for melee DPS who get to LB3 at the end. Castrum and Praetorium will still be about 1. “Online gambling is huge worldwide. Unless you have enough people exploiting cutscene skipping, I don't think you can do Praetorium in anywhere close to 36 minutes. Nobody would run them without roulettes, especially because of the long unskippable cutscenes. for current and previous level caps. For example, I doubt you'll be able to achieve a whole level worth of XP for running Prae anymore, even with the roulette bonus. The bonus for a Frontline Roulette is generally more significant than a leveling roulette, and it feels like a bargain in time spent. But if you queue as a level 50 job, you only have to wear level 50 gear. Don't you think it's daft that MSQ Roulette only has 2 dungeons. One of the tanks needs to stun at around 82-84%. Sorry to sound a bit cheeky but really MSQ roulette is basically just show up and you get stupid amounts of exp. Can't seem to find any actual numbers on how much of a boost it is compared to doing it without bonus and such. But if you queue as a level 50 job, you only have to wear level 50 gear. This and then make MSQ Roulette be Nidhogg, Thordan, Shinryu, Seat of Sacrifice, Aetherochemical, Baelsar's Wall, Ala Mhigo, Ghimlyt Dark, Hades, Amaurot, and Heroes' Gauntlet. its impossible to use the alliance raids roulette any more , all you get is this trash crystal tower raids. also if you got d/c-ed during one, you'll skip it once you get back in. 0 would lock you out of the roulette if you haven't unlocked Ivalice, which is an interesting solution but probably technically very complicated and I imagine would upset a. Prototyping this wouldn't take more than an hour for whoever gets the ticket. It's lowest level and the only set everyone is guaranteed to have unlocked. · 4y. It contributes more XP so they overlevel MSQ even more (assuming they haven't already reached 90, or 70 if on free trial). The main issue is that unlike the other 2 duties, its still heavily outbalanced in cutscene vs combat (its not the number of cutscenes, its the time spent in them). It's part of the Level 50/60/70 roulette as well. Or the warm up before everything else. Gladiator Lv 90. It has a niche that's destroyed with skippable cutscenes. 3. just get them to the msq roulette or delete over all and make it solo content. I feel like leveling roulette is actually BAD for my at this point. For Final Fantasy XIV Online: A Realm Reborn on the PC, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "6. I'll admit that I groan a little when I get ARF/Ala Mhigo/Amaurot/Dead Ends in roulette, even if the tighter sync is better for gameplay. If they did this the sprouts doing the dungeon. To unlock expert roulette, you first need to complete the Main Story Quest (MSQ) of Endwalker. 2 MSQ. so it's about the same as before exp/hour wise. That roulette is so emaciated at the moment, and those raids are now an integral part of the MSQ for both ShB and the EW (and even 6. The intent of daily duty roulettes is to help facilitate. Here are the lengths (I've omitted the opening cutscene length) Ah Cid My Boy- 2:55. ago. Prae belongs there. Ragnarok. glenjamin1616 • 23 days ago. The devs accomplished what they set out to do, in my opinion. As for msq specifically, the most recent I did was in the upper 70s and I got. e. I actually haven't gotten WoD in weeks. Originally Posted by hynaku. And to have the skip button means to forego the rewards of the roulette. Black Mage Lv 90. Duty roulette is an activity that can be undertaken daily for rewards of Allagan Tomestones, Gil, and Grand Company Seals. This change was never going to "fix" alliance roulette because ilevel cheese was never the main cause of "Crystal Tower Roulette" in the first place. FFXIV splits Praetorium in three, but keeps MSQ roulette FFXIV's infamous Praetorium is about to become three separate duties as of patch 6. Alternatively they could go for some kind of rule where you need the raids to continue using the roulette once you pass a certain MSQ threshold, for example starting 5. #swiftsureThey need to fix it so they both give the same amount of exp. By and large you won't need to run roulettes much on your main job; other than an awkward spot in the high level 40s, the msq exp will be enough to level you without addition grinding necessary. This option was actually a huge game-changer for MSQ roulette back in the day when its cutscenes were skippable, PS3 still existed, and it wasn't overgeared to the point of crushing it with 3 people. Assuming you finished the arr msq you should have the msq roulette. I'll take my 50 monk into msq Roulette and report back. Ex. So for me it makes sense to make it mandatory for 5. [deleted] • 3 yr. At MSQ 35 you will only have the leveling dungeons, You could go unlock the Guildhest roulette by completing a couple of those. MSQ Roulette is very good to do when you are trying to level. Do 50/60, MSQ, and Alliance for 500 plus whatever the duties themselves give. Crystal Tower can never be part of MSQ because MSQ is matching 2/2/4 while alliance raids need to match 3 parties of 1/2/5 (0). If you're looking for XP, run level appropriate dungeons instead. Upon reaching the necessary level, a player may select a particular Duty Roulette section. Well, please explain it because I was under the impression it would randomly select a dungeon, trial or MSQ for us to participate in, hence the name roulette. Don't. The Normal Raid Roulette is basically the eight player version. I've done MSQ roulette as DNC, and that huge burst of damage from Standard Step always tears. If they're on the free trial (to Stormblood, so level 70) they won't be able to buy off the market board or trade, locking them completely out of running the Alliance Raid Roulette on that job. Or, as a really fun change, make alliance roulette min ilvl only. Roulette is not going away. I'm in the level 80 range, and I've had runs on other jobs where my. MSQ Roulette scales with your level, so saving that till your other roulettes are done might be more efficient, incase you gain a level or two from doing 50/60/70 -> leveling -> trial -> alliance -> MSQ. -Main Story roulette was completed as. These dungeons. Runtime: 22. It seems like a good middle ground, I'm sure a few people would still grumble over having to wait. Upon reaching a certain threshold, players advance by one level. You can propably guess how often that pops and what the waittimes are like. Goblin. Personally I'd have preferred if all 4-man dungeons and trials required for MSQ, leveling or not, were combined into MSQ roulette. big drawback is that it gives you less exp per day though. The MSQ can't be skipped in any way. It's because it's the lowest level. You can't stick them in normal dungeon roulettes, because they're the only 8-man dungeons. Otherwise it's still the usual as a DPS where I. It's a great way to level alt classes, as level and gear don't matter, and you don't need to worry. MSQ roulette isn't that surprising with only two options. Castrum aggro issues are often not the tank's fault. The roulette for it was just tossed there to try and get people to keep doing them so newbies could learn from them. Then if tank or healer, que up for highest level dungeon. Rharyx211 1 year ago #27. My guess they will make the crystal tower raids 4 person and add them to the MSQ roulette. If you get the two stuns, this is typically good enough to avoid the boss ever gaining the invulnerable buff unless your DPS is truly awful. Play the game on border less windowed, while watching Netflix place mouse cursor on FFXIV icon in windows toolbar. ago. The only real way to make the CT raids fun again is to ilvl cap them. Do at least leveling roulette every day too. MSQ and Alliance raid alone will net you nearly a full level and frontlines can easily net you a half a level. One was a Level 89 Trial, and the other was the 83 Trial, and I think I was playing a tank both times. Circumstances changed, ended up doing it as 67 Ninja, rolled Castrum, 2. Scenario. It isn't right, it's only going to get worse the more trials we get, but Square has shown no interest in doing anything about it. 54% of your EXP bar per run. 2mil exp was the daily completion reward along. Also, I hope those Skipped cut scenes and 100% text was only A Realm Reborn. Methodology Compared to the first quantitative analysis I did back in the day, I am using a slightly more detailed methodology this time. . It will now be a 4-man duty where you only clear up to followed by a then the final fight will be a solo quest battle. Another alternative? Start a new class, and queue for PVP. The total time from entry to completion 27 minutes 35000xp was the standard completion reward . It can. AKF in MSQ Roulette. This also means that players will have to level via other methods. ago. That’s what I did. There was a time when CT was not required for the MSQ and it was still always CT in the roulette. Roulette. The Mhach raids come up occasionally. Ragnarok. What you guys think?Trying to get it removed. What will happen with the Gaius fight is a “spoiler” he can’t talk about yet. 0. Or my level. Yep, if even one person queues up on their level 50-59 alt job, boom 23 other people get CT. Combine all non-MSQ required dungeons into a single roulette called Optional Dungeon roulette (that gives exp and tomes equal to the current leveling roulette). Unskippable cut scenes was a very bad idea. Goblin. It won't tell you the names of the duties if you don't have them unlocked. The toxicity of the players the OP mentioned is precisely the reason why SE made it impossible to skip cutscenes in the MSQ Roulette in the first place. EXP bonus varies by level and what duty you get. MSQ will give you enough xp to level up, use your roulettes to level alt classes if you want to level them. It's fairly good experience, although that is up for debate, but it means that some people feel forced into doing it, others try to attend but spend as little time as possible actually engaging with the content, and others just flat out refuse to do it. ago. Also, the ARR MSQ trials have duty support (Ifrit, Titan Garuda, and Porta Decumana since they're all 4-man trials). In the US alone, the current size of the. They never promised it would eliminate Crystal Tower from the roulette, or even make all raids appear at equal rates. First: MSQ roulette is the best exp/time ratio of the roulettes, it's longer but skipping it is a massive cut to your daily exp. If your class is above the requirement for the next MSQ quest, you shouldn't be too focused on levling it up. Castrum and Praetorium are required to complete ARR. Scholar Lv 90. Haha no. The highest exp for any job or level is to spam the highest level dungeon you can enter, after getting your bonuses. Those instances simply fun for me. The cutscenes need to be unskippable,. They can rewatch the scenes. MSQ Roulette will never be anything but Prae and Castrum because that's what it was designed for, a story boost with giant exp/tomes/etc to help new players get. Runtime: 18 minutes. If they give the option to skip it if all players have completed it, they'd have to introduce some method of reducing the reward accordingly. But being required just adds to it even more. This change was never going to "fix" alliance roulette because ilevel cheese was never the main cause of "Crystal Tower Roulette" in the first place. If it is bothering you in Mentor Roulette then, well, you are being compensated in several ways for having Mentor status, so expect to have to do some mentoring at some point. e fps and custcene loading time. Alliance raid is also very very good for leveling.